FORD LIED about CARBON MONOXIDE!

Ford Offers Repairs to Prevent Exhaust Leaks in 1.4 Million Explorers

By REUTERSOCT. 13, 2017

WASHINGTON — Ford Motor Co said on Friday it will offer free repairs to North American owners of more than 1.4 million Explorer sport utility vehicles to help ensure that carbon monoxide and other exhaust gases cannot get into the vehicles, following the U.S. government's decision to upgrade an investigation in July.

Several U.S. police agencies have raised concerns about potentially deadly carbon monoxide gas entering the cabins of Ford Explorers that had been adapted for law enforcement uses. Federal regulators have said they are aware of more than 2,700 complaints for exhaust odors as well as reports of three crashes and 41 injuries that may be linked to exposure to carbon monoxide among police and civilian 2011-2017 Explorer vehicles.

Ford said its investigation has not found "carbon monoxide levels that exceed what people are exposed to every day" in the 1.4 million civilian vehicles. There is no U.S. government standard for in-vehicle carbon monoxide levels. Ford says it believes the vehicles are safe and is making the offer, which it is not classifying as a recall, in response to customer concerns.

The second largest U.S. automaker said starting November 1, dealers will reprogram the air conditioner, replace the liftgate drain valves and inspect sealing of the rear of the vehicle. The fix covers about 1.3 million U.S. vehicles and about 100,000 in Canada and Mexico.

Ford declined to comment on the potential financial impact of the service offer that will last through the end of 2018.

Ford shares fell 0.7 percent to $12.04 in afternoon trading.

The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) in July upgraded and expanded a probe into 1.33 million Ford Explorer SUVs over reports of exhaust odors in vehicle compartments and exposure to carbon monoxide.

Police agencies have reported two crashes that may be linked to carbon monoxide exposure and a third incident involving injuries related to carbon monoxide exposure.

NHTSA said it is evaluating preliminary testing that suggests carbon monoxide levels may be elevated in certain driving scenarios.

Ford has issued four technical service bulletins related to the exhaust odor issue to address complaints from police fleets and other owners.

In July, Ford said it would pay to repair police versions of its Ford Explorer SUVs to correct possible carbon monoxide leaks that may be linked to crashes and injuries after some police reports temporarily halted use of the vehicles over carbon monoxide concerns.

The city of Austin, Texas said in July it would remove all 400 of the city’s Ford Explorer SUVs from use for additional testing and repairs after the city said 20 police officers were found with elevated levels of carbon monoxide. The department returned the vehicles to service after repairs and testing.

In 2016, Ford agreed to settle a U.S. class-action lawsuit involving 1 million 2011-2015 Explorer SUVs over exhaust odor complaints, including reimbursements of up to $500 for repairs and the company agreed to make repairs. That settlement was approved in June but has not taken effect because of a penidng appeal.

(Reporting by David Shepardson; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama)

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2017/10/13/business/13reuters-ford-motor-emissions.html

Ford Offers Repairs to Prevent

Exhaust Leaks in 1.4 Million Explorers

By REUTERS

OCT. 13, 2017, 3:18 P.M. E.D.T.

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2017/10/13/business/13reuters-ford-motor-emissions.html

[This “issue” actually was first reported way back in 2011 by owners

on at least one Ford Explorer forum, back on July 24, 2011 – (at bottom).]

The Ford spokesmen just plain “lied on camera, or in print,”

when “they claimed” there were “no reports” of “civilian”

Ford Explorers experiencing “carbon monoxide” leaks; even as

the recent TV reporters “had proof” of elevated CO levels

using quality high accuracy CO meters, right on-camera!   But

they finally, came clean (to a limited degree).  NHTSA “should

technically and legally ” assess a verylarge fine, but “my guess is,”

“something,” has been “worked-out” in the last week or two.

And of course there were OVER 2700 reports of exhaust smells

and/or CO poisoning to NHTSA (who of course “ignored them”

all these last SIX years.  Of course, both Ford and NHTSA “figured”

it “would be cheaper” just to “sweep the issue under the rug,”

and they nearly got away with it – had it NOT FINALLY AFFECTED

POLICE OFFICERS – injuring, and/or nearly killing several of them.

American corporations are really, truly bad;, but unbelievably,

the Germans and Japanese corporations are even worse!  They will

deny, deny, and deny some more, “until hell freezes over,” before

admitting anything is ever wrong with their vehicles,  in private, or public.

In the VW diesel emissions scandal, it was actually an American

VW executive “who finally admitted” the truth of the matter, in

the face of overwhelming hard evidence of the cheating.

This is at least “a small victory” or sorts.  Of course, the manufacturer,

NHTSA, insurance companies, and media. all  have a lot of explaining to

do, as “to how” this took “so long” to finally be admitted to and addressed.

Bad or Burnt Exhaust smell in cabin during acceleration.

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Testing Ford Explorers and their drivers for Carbon Monoxide

Discussion in 'Stock 2011 - 2018 Ford Explorer Discussion'

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September 14, 2017 at 6:33 PM.

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I am toxicologist who joined the forum so I can share information on how to test carbon

monoxide (CO) levels in Ford Explorers and the drivers of Ford Explorers.

#1. If you can smell vehicle exhaust, odorless CO is always also present, but CO may

be present even if you do not smell exhaust, or after the smell fades. The only way to

know the level of CO you are breathing is with a portable professional CO detector that

displays from 1ppm, and preferably one that records CO measurements automatically (called

a datalogger) or at least one that records the peak CO level (which you can then recall by

pressing a button). Any CO level above 0 in a vehicle is abnormal unless in heavy traffic or a

tunnel, and healthy non-smokers start absorbing CO as soon the level they inhale exceeds

the 1-2ppm they normally exhale.

#2. Do not test vehicles with home CO alarms built to UL2034 or UL2075 standards.

These are worse than worthless for use in vehicles because they give a false sense of

security. They do not display any CO levels below 30ppm in real time, nor do they give any

CO warning below 70ppm, even though EPA average limit for public is just 9ppm. Home CO

alarms also don't provide any warning until CO has been continuously over 70ppm for 1 – 4

hours at the low end or over 400ppm for 4 - 15minutes at the high end. By the time they

alarm, you have already been poisoned for anywhere from 4 minutes to 4 hours.

#3. To get your Ford dealer to take you seriously, ask a passenger to use a smartphone

to video the CO levels your detector displays while accelerating over 45 mph with both

front and rear AC on high, all windows closed, and recirculate ON. From my testing of

2015 and 2016 Explorers, this appears to be the worst case scenario and so the only

condition you need to test. To quickly lower the CO level in the cabin after testing, leave the

AC on and turn recirculate OFF (or just open 2 or more windows). Since Ford dealers do not

have CO detectors, I recommend you test your vehicle again after anyone attempts any

repairs. As long as you can detect CO entering the cabin under these conditions, the vehicle

is not safe to drive.

#4. If you want to know how much CO you absorbed from your exposures while

driving, you can use any professional CO detector to measure the level of CO in your

tissues. You just need to hold your breath for 35 seconds before exhaling into the detector.

This method is faster, more accurate and less painful than measuring COHb in blood, which is

most hospitals can't even do in-house. If you do get your COHb tested, make sure they take

both arterial and venous samples. Both are needed to determine if CO is being absorbed

(a>v), excreted (v>a) or in equilibrium (a=v).

During CO exposure, you inhale more CO than you exhale, but afterwards, once back in fresh

air, you exhale more than you inhale, until the level of CO in your blood and tissues tissues

returns to healthy equilibrium. This can take days to years, depending on how much CO you

absorbed, or until you are exposed to a higher level and start absorbing CO again. Symptoms

like recurring headaches, chronic fatigue, brain fog, muscle pain and multi-sensory sensitivity

can last as long as you have more CO in your tissues than your blood.

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Center for Auto Safety Names Jason K. Levine Executive Director

Center for Auto Safety names Ditlow's successor

August 15, 2017

Jason Levine: "American consumers expect their government to prevent the false advertising of used cars and protect the environment from auto pollution. Yet, the only momentum we see in Washington is a regulatory rollback that too many in the auto industry are aiding and abetting."

The Center for Auto Safety has appointed an official with a track record in federal government consumer protection agencies as its new executive director, the advocacy group said Tuesday.

Jason Levine, who spent about six years at the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission during the administration of former President Barack Obama, succeeds Clarence Ditlow, who died in November last year.

Levine has also worked for the Federal Election Commission and the Department of Health and Human Services.

In a news release, Levine said: "Despite rising auto fatalities, and new recalls coming almost daily, the current administration has shown no interest in meeting its statutory duty and moral responsibility to enforce safety laws on behalf of drivers, passengers, and pedestrians.

"American consumers expect their government to prevent the false advertising of used cars and protect the environment from auto pollution. Yet, the only momentum we see in Washington is a regulatory rollback that too many in the auto industry are aiding and abetting. The Center's role as the eyes, ears, and voice of the consumer is more important than ever."

The Center for Auto Safety was founded in 1970 by consumer rights advocate Ralph Nader and Consumers Union.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20170815/OEM11/170819888/center-for-auto-safety-names-ditlows-successor

BMWs ERUPTING IN FLAMES: BMW MYSTERY

BMW Electrical Fires

VIDEO ON LINK

CARS ERUPTING IN FLAMES: BMW MYSTERY

By Jason Knowles and Ann Pistone

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 10:38PM

CHICAGO (WLS) --

The I-Team and ABC News are looking into a BMW mystery, dozens of reports of cars erupting into flames, some when they're not even running, from across the country.

The I-Team has learned of a possible problem in some BMW vehicles. Some of the fires were captured on camera, and the I-Team found Chicago area customers who also say their cars went up in flames.

Kelly Kolep took dramatic photos of her 2000 BMW 5-series, charred. Burned to a crisp.

"What happens if we would have lost our lives? You can't bring us back; you can't bring my children back to me. And that's what I want them to understand," she said before she started crying.

Her husband Tyrone Brown still holds on to the hub caps.

"I was devastated and hurt," he said.

The flames went up, Kolep said, just minutes after she started her car. Fortunately, she and her children were not yet inside. The car was towed to the junkyard.

"Thank god my children were not in that car, otherwise me and my children would not be here today to tell you this story. And it's hard to sit right here and relive that moment," Kopel said.

The Rantoul Fire Department report from June 2015 only says that the "owner stated it stared [sic] in the glove box." The fire chief told the I-Team it wasn't arson. Kolep purchased the car used from a dealership 17 months before the fire.

The I-Team and ABC News found dozens of reports of similar BMW fires in the last five years around the country and Canada. Some fires were caught on video in parking lots, some fires set homes on fire.

Photos, YouTube videos, reports from fire departments and owner complaints to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. They include different makes and models of BMWs dating as far back as 1999. Some models were under recall for a fire risk; most were not.

BMW said with about 4.9 million vehicles on U.S. roads, fire incidents are very rare.

"The interior was completely demolished," Angel Lopez of Rogers Park said.

The I-Team tracked down Lopez after obtaining a record of his BMW fire report through the U.S. Fire Administration.

"I was like, 'The car just started by itself.' And they were like, that's very suspicious, and I'm like, 'That's what happened," he said.

Like Kolep, Lopez said the fire started in the passenger side glove compartment, but unlike Kolep's car he said his was not running. Like many of the cases, Lopez said his keys weren't even in the ignition.

"The engine may be off but all of the electric power systems that are going to do things like keep that high pressure fuel pump ready," said Sean Kane of the Center for Auto Safety.

Kane said even if the engines are off, the systems are always on in high performance vehicles like BMWs.

ABC News sent its findings to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. While NHTSA said at this time it has found no evidence pointing to a safety defect, the agency is asking for BMW owners who have experienced this issue to reach out to them directly.

"A lot of times these kind of problems get masked or buried into this pool of fire and no direct cause or origin," he said.

BMW said it "takes every incident very seriously and has a dedicated team prepared to work with BMW owners... We have not seen any pattern related to quality or component failure. Vehicle fires can result from a wide variety of external reasons..."

And it said "external factors like poor maintenance, aftermarket changes and even rodent nesting can cause fires."

BMW encourages owners to maintain their cars at authorized BMW dealerships.

Kolep said in the short time she had the car she received oil changes at a nearby mechanic shop, but Lopez said he only brought his car to a BMW-certified mechanic.

"Of course BMW couldn't' do anything about it, it was a used car, now, and they were just no help," Lopez said.

"They won't help us, why?" Kolep wondered.

Kolep said BMW did tell her they would give her a "special deal" if she bought a brand new BMW at a dealership. The I-Team also gave BMW the information of the two consumers featured in this story, but they did not respond to the specific cases.

ABC News and chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross will have more on this story starting Thursday on Good Morning America and on Nightline, finding more cases of BMW fires including reports of a string of incidents in South Korea and what's being done there.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration gave the I-Team a statement, saying:

"The U.S. DOT and NHTSA's focus is on public safety. Motorists are encouraged to report potential safety issues to the agency, including strange and unexplainable incidents involving their vehicles. On NHTSA's website www.nhtsa.gov, vehicle owners can send a complaint and upload accompanying photos, police reports, insurance reports and other information that may be relevant. While on the site, owners can also check for open recalls using NHTSA's free look up tool."

http://abc7chicago.com/automotive/cars-erupting-in-flames-bmw-mystery/1978209/

VIDEO ON LINK

BMW MYSTERY: SOME OWNERS CLAIM PARKED CAR CAUGHT FIRE

Danielle Emerson's BMW caught fire inside her garage

By Diane Wilson

RALEIGH, North Carolina (WTVD) --

A growing number of BMW owners are speaking out after their parked cars caught on fire, and they say they got little or no support from the luxury car manufacturer.

Danielle Emerson was asleep in her bedroom when she heard her son screaming frantically.

"I'm hearing 'Fire! Fire!' He said, 'Mom the garage is on fire go, go,'" Emerson recalled.

Once she got everyone out of the home safely, she went to the garage and saw her 2011 BMW 528 on fire.

"The car is burning from under the front passenger seat. It's coming up where the side view mirror is, that is burning off, the door is burning off," Emerson explained.

Danielle Emerson's car caught fire inside of her garage

Emerson said she grabbed the water hose just outside of her garage and started spraying the fire.

"My driveway outside is at a slant so I was able to lay on my stomach and look under the car, and the car is on fire in a straight line," Emerson shared. "Straight to back and I'm spraying, I'm spraying, and I'm praying."

Her son CJ was actually in the garage with buckets of water trying to put out the flames.

"I'm like, 'Boy, get out of here! Both of these cars are full of gas get out of there!' I'm thinking that something is going to blow up at any minute."

Firefighters arrived extinguished the blaze. Danielle's BMW was totaled and the car parked beside it in the garage was also damaged. Danielle said there was smoke damage to her garage and her home. BMW did investigate the cause but took no responsibly.

In this letter, the company stated in part, "The thermal damage found was isolated to the external surface of the battery cable, with no indication of over-voltage or shorting of the wire within." 

The letter goes on to say, "Careful examination of the electrical, mechanical and fuel delivery systems did not reveal any indications of an ignition source as a possible cause."

Emerson was not pleased with the company's response.

"I need to know what happened that could have killed us."

Emerson isn't the only BMW owner who wants answers. We worked with ABC News Chief Investigator Brian Ross and his team along with our other ABC Owned stations and found at least 40 reported cases of parked BMW's catching on fire that were not covered by any fire-related recall. One of those cases involved Bill Macko's 2008 BMW X5 at his home in Maryland.

His wife just parked the car in the garage when he says she came in and said the car smelled funny. When Bill went to check on it, "There was black smoke, a snap, crackle, pop, and boom a flame."

It didn't take long for the fire to spread from his BMW to his home. His home was heavily damaged by the fire.

Macko says representatives with BMW investigated but gave him no answers and took no responsibility.

"It's disheartening when you're so loyal to a particular brand or product and then you're treated like this, not even an apology that's the sad part."

While BMW, like many other manufacturers, has issued fire related recalls over the years, when it comes to these cases BMW issued this statement:

With approximately 4.9 million BMW vehicles on U.S. roads, fire incidents involving BMWs are very rare. BMW takes every incident very seriously and has a dedicated team prepared to work with BMW owners, insurance companies and authorities to investigate any vehicle fire incident that is brought to our attention.

We have investigated and in some cases inspected the vehicles identified by ABC News. These vehicles span an age range of 1-15 years, accumulated mileage of up to 232,250 miles and multiple generations and model types. In the few cases that we have inspected and are able to determine root cause, we have not seen any pattern related to quality or component failure. Vehicle fires can result from a wide variety of external reasons unrelated to product defect, like poor maintenance, unauthorized replacement parts, even rodent nests.

So how can a parked car that's turned off catch on fire? Sean Kane, with the Center for Auto Safety, says it's a mystery, but it could have something to do with the fact that vehicles are never really "off".

"Even when a vehicle is off you're going to get power to a lot of the controls, the modules, the door locks, even the high-pressure fuel pump," Kane explained.

Kane says since the fire destroys so much of the components in the car it's tough to determine a cause.

"Oftentimes these types of problem get masked or buried into this pool of fire and no direct cause or origin, no pattern that's visible and then go off the radar," Kane added.

After losing so much, Emerson said she continues to search for answers as to why her BMW caught fire.

"It's a slow process, but I'm willing to wait because that could have been our lives there."

After ABC News asked more questions about Emerson's case, BMW confirmed they are again looking into it.

When it comes to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, a representative said in part, "NHTSA is always monitoring for safety defect issues; at this time there is no evidence pointing to a safety defect; however the agency will continue to monitor its data. Motorists are encouraged to report potential safety issues to the agency, including strange and unexplainable incidents involving their vehicles. On NHTSA's website www.nhtsa.gov, vehicle owners can send a complaint and upload accompanying photos, police reports, insurance reports and other information that may be relevant. While on the site, owners can also check for open recalls using NHTSA's free look up tool."

The investigation continues. ABC News will have much more on the BMW Mystery Thursday on Good Morning America, along with World News Tonight and Nightline.

http://abc11.com/automotive/bmw-mystery-some-owners-claim-parked-car-caught-fire/1976576/

President Donald Trump meets with Mary Barra in January.
(Photo: Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP)

Critics fear Trump will tap auto exec for NHTSA

Keith Laing , Detroit News Washington Bureau12:15 a.m. ET April 24, 2017

Washington — Car-safety advocates are worried that President Donald Trump might turn over the keys to the agency charged with regulating the safety of the nation’s automobiles to someone from within the industry’s ranks.

Rosemary Shahan, president of the Sacramento, Calif.-based Consumers for Auto Reliability and Safety group, said she would not be surprised if Trump reaches out to an auto executive to fill the position of National Highway Traffic Safety administrator, vacant since Trump took office in January.

“He has a penchant of appointing people who have been regulated and allowing them to dismantle agencies,” Shahan continued. “You have all these companies who have been under investigations for safety violations recently. I wouldn’t be surprised if he appointed somebody from one of them. It would be consistent with his other appointments.”

No names for candidates appear to be circulating among industry and government insiders in Washington. Several have said it does not appear that filling the position is a high priority for the president, who has yet to make numerous appointments in the government.

But Shahan speculates on one potential candidate: General Motors Co. Chairman and CEO Mary Barra.

“He seems to be very friendly with her,” Shahan said of Trump’s relationship with GM’s chief, noting he has named Barra to a Strategic and Policy Forum that advises him on economic issues and jobs growth, and met with her in Washington on at least two occasions.

The White House declined to comment on the president’s plans for filling the vacancy. GM would not comment on whether Barra would be interested in the regulatory job.

Barra, who became the first woman to lead an automaker in January 2014, is in a strong position at her company, which is posting record profits. She has assembled a cohesive team of executives who all stand to earn substantial bonuses if they remain with the company.

Trump has appointed other high-level business executives to serve in his Cabinet: Former Exxon Mobile CEO Rex Tillerson is U.S. secretary of state. Investor Wilbur Ross is commerce secretary. Additionally, Trump selected school-choice advocate Betsy DeVos, a West Michigan GOP mega-donor and philanthropist, to be his education secretary. World Wrestling Entertainment CEO Linda McMahon leads the Small Business Administration.

“If he appoints someone from the auto industry, there is going to be a lot of concern on the Hill and among groups like ours,” said former Public Citizen president Joan Claybrook, who was National Highway Traffic Safety administrator during the Carter administration in the late 1970s. “That’s a real conflict of interest. You need someone who is more even-minded about what needs to be done.”

Trump has signed an executive order that requires the federal government to cut two regulations for every one that’s enacted. He has proposed cutting $2.4 billion, or 13 percent, from the U.S. Department of Transportation’s current budget levels as part of his effort to cut non-military spending by $54 billion to support an increase in defense funding. NHTSA is a subsidiary of the transportation department.

Shahan, the safety group president, expressed concern that an industry insider would target regulations that address auto safety.

“He’s on a deregulation kick,” she said. “That’s not comforting. That’s worrisome. Is the new administrator at NHTSA going to deregulate auto safety? He’s so fixated on threats from outside the U.S. that he doesn’t consider that there are threats to us domestically like auto crashes. When he talks about threats to our safety, he’s talking about ISIS.”

NHTSA and other federal agencies have career staffers who remain in place when presidential administrations change. It will likely be hard for Trump to make drastic changes to auto regulations before naming a new top highway safety cop.

Jeff Davis, senior fellow with the independent Eno Center for Transportation think tank in Washington, said Trump is not tardy with his NHTSA choice by recent historical standards. He noted that Obama did not nominate his first NHTSA administrator until nearly 11 months after taking office. President George W. Bush did not nominate his first until five months after moving into the White House. And President Bill Clinton did not nominate his first NHTSA administrator until 13 months after taking office.

Davis said the NHTSA vacancy is not impeding the Trump administration’s ability to police safety regulations.

“Legally, the authority to issue and revise motor vehicle safety standards ... is vested in the secretary of transportation,” he said. “The secretary can delegate or un-delegate that authority to the NHTSA administrator as they see fit, but the important thing is that the regulation-and-recall process can be carried out by the career staff of NHTSA and put into legal effect by the secretary in the absence of a confirmed NHTSA administrator.”

Claybrook, the former NHTSA administrator, said she started working at the agency three months after Jimmy Carter became president. “Agency heads are usually the last ones to get appointed,” she said.

But she said the highway safety agency needs a strong administrator because it has “always been a bit of a stepchild among agencies” and it is “desperately underfunded.”

“You need someone who is talented to fight those battles,” she said of the effort to convince Congress to spend more money on such things as hiring staff to monitor potential safety recalls. “There are quite a number of opportunities to save lives that there is no leadership on right now.”

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2017/04/24/trump-transportation/100830872/